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    Interview by Elaine Lipworth
     

    IN the romantic comedy What Happens in Vegas, Ashton Kutcher and Cameron Diaz get lucky in Las Vegas, but rapidly discover that neither luck nor animal attraction is enough to make a marriage work. Marriage, in fact, is not what Kutcher’s charismatic Jack Fuller has in mind at all when he heads to Sin City with his buddy “Hater” (Rob Corddry). Just fired from his job making closets, he wants to party, get away from it all and let loose. Joy McNally (Diaz) is also in Las Vegas with her pal Tipper (Lake Bell) to escape her troubles. This driven Wall Street commodities trader has been humiliated by her fiancé, who has ended the relationship and embarrassed her in front of her friends.

    Sparks fly between Joy and Jack, who rashly get hitched during a crazy, inebriated night of fun and passion. In the morning, however, they are left nursing hangovers, along with big regrets. All set to leave Vegas and head back home to New York, Joy is idly playing a slot machine. Jack uses one of Joy’s quarters, puts it in the machine and amazingly hits the jackpot...to the tune of $3 million. Understandably, neither is prepared to let the other one keep the cash.

    Great chemistry is the key to this comedy, directed by Tom Vaughan (Which is now in Philippine theaters from 20th Century Fox—Ed.). Diaz and Kutcher are hilarious as they battle it out, seeking ways to trip each other up, keep the cash and leave what happened in Vegas, firmly in Vegas!      

    Kutcher was born in a small town in Iowa, grew up on a farm and studied biochemical engineering, working as a cereal dust sweeper in a factory and doing other blue-collar jobs to help support the family and finance his education. He was “discovered” and began working as a Calvin Klein model before starring in That ’70s Show. He created and produced the hit show Punk’d on MTV. His movies include Just Married, Cheaper by the Dozen, The Butterfly Effect, Guess Who, Down to You, Reindeer Games, A Lot Like Love, Bobby and The Guardian. A successful producer, he has his own production company, Katalyst Films, which is responsible for several reality TV shows. His next film is Personal Effects with Michelle Pfeiffer.  The actor is involved with extensive charity work.  Kutcher, 30, is married to actress Demi Moore. They live in Los Angeles with her three daughters.

    LIKE CARY AND KATE? Kutcher and Diaz wage a war of the sexes and sparks fly in the raucous romantic comedy What Happens in Vegas.

     

    Matinee-idol handsome, with enormous charisma, as well as comic and dramatic talent, it is easy to see why Ashton Kutcher has been compared with Cary Grant. Wearing jeans, a pinstriped denim blazer and T-shirt, the actor sat down in New York (over a large vanilla latte) to talk about What Happens in Vegas, his own views on relationships, his marriage and his career.

     

    What is the appeal of What Happens in Vegas and your character?

    I think it is all about the different attitudes of men and women toward marriage. Girls are raised socially to get married, to find that special someone, a soul mate.  Social conditioning raises them to get married, right? And social conditioning raises guys to get laid. So we are already starting out on two entirely different planes in terms of what we are naturally looking for in our lives. So here you have Joy (Cameron), a woman who wants to get married. We see that clearly in her first scene. And then you have my character, a guy who just wants to get laid, and you see that established clearly in my first scene in the film. Meanwhile, both of our worlds are spinning out of control. She gets dumped; I lose my job. And we meet in Las Vegas.

    What do you think makes this situation so funny?

    When you have two people with flaws and put them together, one character’s strength reveals the other person’s flaws, and I think that is what makes it interesting and funny. Jack and Joy are flip sides of the same coin. Both are relationship-challenged. Jack is pretty relaxed about it all, while Joy’s more uptight. Romantically, they’ve both been looking for the wrong things in life, which is probably what draws them to each other to begin with, even if they are really, really drunk at the time they meet. My character’s ability to just go for it and live on the wild side, have fun and go for the sex and the partying contrasts with Joy’s ability to focus on her career and plan her life. And I think two people like that naturally fit in a relationship, although it may not look like it.

    How much do you have in common with Jack? You actually chose to get married at quite a young age.

    I think I was very much this character myself.  I was very close to Jack before I got married. I had no desire to be in a relationship, whatsoever—not at all. I had sworn myself off relationships, in fact.  Let me put it this way; I was creating as much of a ruckus as I possibly could. When we first met, I was here in New York, partying and playing, I was hosting Saturday Night Live and I was saying to myself: “I am going to party, I’m going to sleep with this girl and that girl and just have a good time”...and then I met my wife. And it was like: “I cannot be with this person.” It was actually very similar to the movie in some ways because as soon as you make that decision not to have a relationship, you will find one. That is what happens.

    So is it fate, do you think, when couples like Jack and Joy—or you and Demi—end up together?

    I do think so. It is impossible to find a relationship if you are looking for one. Yet as soon as you let go of the need or desire for a relationship, it’ll show up in your face, just like that. It is interesting.

    What was it like working with Cameron?

    It was fantastic. I would go home at night and look forward to going to work again, because I’d know I was going to see her the next day. She makes the process fun for everyone from the start of the day to the end of the day; she loves making movies and that made it really exciting for me. And it also changed my outlook on life in terms of my joy and appreciation of what it is we do for a living. We just had fun together and got to hang out and got on really well.

    People have compared you with Cary Grant as a funny leading man. Is comedy natural for you?

    I don’t think comedies are natural for me. I feel I have to work so much harder at comedy than drama. I don’t know what to say about that comparison except that it’s great, thank you! But I have studied Cary Grant and his movies. Bringing Up Baby (with Katharine Hepburn) is probably the most fantastic example of Cary Grant in a romantic comedy. I also love The Philadelphia Story (also with Katharine Hepburn); I have watched a lot of his movies. I think he was much better than I am at comedy.

    You play a carpenter who makes closets for a living. Women are often attracted to carpenters, aren’t they? They are always sexy.  For example, there was Kurt Russell in Overboard with Goldie Hawn.

    Yes, I love Overboard and that’s true about carpenters. (Laughs)

    But I believe it’s a genuine talent in your case...you have real carpentry experience, don’t you?

    I did a quite a bit of carpentry when I was younger. My dad’s a carpenter; my stepdad’s a carpenter. I helped my stepdad build the house that I grew up in after I was 13 and I have a company with my dad right now, building and remodeling houses in Los Angeles. 

    What is it about carpentry that is so sexy?

    I don’t really know what it is; it is not that glamorous. I did some carpentry recently, when I was preparing for the role. I found a closet-making company in New York and I went and worked for them and installed closets for a couple of days in people’s houses. I showed up at one guy’s house and said, “I’m here to install your closet.” He said, “Cool.”  He asked for a photo afterward and now has “Closets By Ashton.”

    Did the experience of growing up poor and doing laboring jobs as a teenager help you appreciate life now, do you think?

    Definitely, I don’t think you appreciate anything until you earn it. I think understanding how difficult is to earn the minimum wage is important. When I was working, it was $4.65 for an hour of work and I did a lot of blue-collar jobs: washing dishes in a kitchen, some masonry work. I was a butcher for a while; I worked in a grocery store and in a bank. I started working when I was about 12; I have always had a job. I do really appreciate what I have now but I also appreciate the people who work for my company, who are making $50,000 or $60,000 a year. I appreciate what they have to do to get by on that salary. I appreciate the effort and work they put in. I appreciate the crew on my films. In my job, I go home at night exhausted, shooting 14-hour days. But the guy who is carrying around sandbags all day is far more tired than I am. I don’t think anybody should be allowed to grow up without doing some physical blue-collar labor at some point.  Look, it’s really easy to ride on a private plane and have no idea how much that costs. Once you understand that a flight from New York to Los Angeles and back to New York costs the average annual income of an American, suddenly you start to be very grateful for the lifestyle that you are living.

    Jack and Joy quickly learn when they return from Las Vegas to New York that they have to work very hard at marriage, that it is not easy. What is the key to your own happy marriage?

    I am not a slob like Jack, but I think we are all capable of being that guy or Cameron’s character. For Demi and me, what makes marriage work is circuitry in the relationship. You start with the notion that women set out to get married and men set out to have sex, and that eventually most people do get married and say: “Okay, we achieved the goal.” That is like getting a job for the first time and saying: “I got a job, I don’t have to work anymore.” But you are not going to keep the job very long if you stop working. What we realize in our marriage is that being in a partnership with one another takes work. So when communication breaks down or when there is a problem or an issue, instead of creating space between each other and having those days when we play “the blame game” or don’t talk to each other, we talk and we work at it. We find another way to give to each other because when you give to somebody else and trust them, just the very act of giving helps. Giving means talking and spending time together, actively sharing our lives together. Just sitting in the same room with someone is not sharing. Living in the same house and having kids isn’t sharing. We do our spiritual study together. We find ways to give more to others, too.

    How do you do that?

    We give to our girls and to our friends. We also do charity work. We are going out to Rikers Island Prison here in New York to attend a nondenominational spiritual course or seminar for young people. The course gives kids the tools to solve problems on their own so they can fulfill their potential. We will go and hang out with them and speak. That’s a way we feel we can give and contribute but we do that together as a couple.

    Why are you so committed to helping young people with problems?

    Because I have been there myself. As a kid, I broke into my high school. I was working really hard at the time, doing one of my blue-collar jobs and I just wanted to get some money fast. For a minute I just thought that the easy way out was the best way out. It’s a simple decision, a simple oversight that kids can make.  One of the things I speak about when I go to courses run by SFK (Spirituality For Kids), which is a nondenominational, nonprofit organization, is that I was just like them. I was the guy that sat in jail, the guy that walked around town with my baseball cap down because I was ashamed of myself. Now, the whole world has accepted me as a successful person. Some people may not like the work I do but that doesn’t matter because in some ways, I have become a role model as an actor and as a professional, hardworking person. Kids are often told, “You are a bad person, you are a bad boy” and they start to believe that, but there is no such thing as a bad person. There are just people who make bad decisions. And when you stop making bad decisions, you can turn into a really successful, well-adjusted happy person. Remember the next time you think of one of those people in jail as bad, they are really just like Ashton because the truth is that I was that guy—absolutely 100 percent—but I turned my life around.

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